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Postby garethmetcalf » Tue, 2021-Mar-02, 17:41

Day 93.

The tanking is dry and the room smells dry too! I’ve been running the extractor fan, an electric radiator and a dehumidifier the last week and it’s definitely worked.

So this evening I gave silicon sealed a treated piece of 4x2 to the floor which will become the base for the inside rooms. Some serious checking and double checking of measurements and using my recently purchased large square have hopefully meant I’ve got it in the right place...

I can’t screw this through the tanking stuff without ruining it, so I’m hoping that the weight of the walls and roof on the walls will be enough to keep everything in place. The sealant will hopefully hold it enough whilst I assemble the walls (which I’ll temporarily be attaching to the exterior ceiling joists until the inside room joists are fitted).

These pieces of 4x2 are being held to the floor with paving slabs whilst the sealant drys then I’ll be using some brackets to connect the four bits together.

I then put up some of the vapour barrier which will stop condensation damaging the plasterboard - mounted on the ‘warm side’ of the insulation. More of that to do tomorrow and then I’m ready to start building the wall sections!

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Postby Starlight » Tue, 2021-Mar-02, 18:35

garethmetcalf wrote:Source of the post... the walls (which I’ll temporarily be attaching to the exterior ceiling joists until the inside room joists are fitted).
I had to do that with the stud framework otherwise it would not have stood up on its own. It was only after the insulation and a layer of OSB went up that we could connect the 4 walls to each other and remove the temporary ties. When the ceiling went up it provided the extra dimension of stability. It is a concerning point in the progress but having walked that path I can reassure you that it will work out alright but it is important to remove the temporary ties to avoid flanking paths.



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Postby garethmetcalf » Tue, 2021-Mar-02, 19:31

Thanks Starlight. I suspect putting the first piece up will be the most worrying, as it’ll be wobbling around.

Glad to know the temporary ties work!

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Postby garethmetcalf » Fri, 2021-Mar-12, 15:17

Days 99-103

I’ve been off work this week to make progress with my build and things are starting to take shape.

In preparation I’d already insulated the cavity, fixed up a vapour barrier and silicon sealed a treated 4x2 to the floor as a sole plate.

On Monday I cut and made the stud wall frames for the inner walls, in 10 sections that would be liftable. Tuesday I finished these and added plasterboard to the three frames for the back wall, ready to lift with my brother in law who joined me on Wednesday. We managed to finish and lift 6 out of 10 sections before he had to go for the school run, so on Thursday I managed to finish the remaining 4 with assistance from my partner Michelle. Each wall section is 4x2 stud, then two layers of 15mm plasterboard with the gaps overlapped. Where wall sections meet I overlapped the second layer of plasterboard by 20mm, and as each section went up copious sealant was applied to all the bits it touched!
Today I have caulked all the stud bays, put more vapour barrier in the ceiling cavity, and insulated and vapour barriered the floor. The screed for the floor is being poured tomorrow.

Next week it’s the silencers and ceiling! I’m knackered - not used to all this physical work!!

Oh and whoever it was that recommended I buy a cordless caulk gun - Thankyou!! What a lifesaver

Edit: typical!! I can’t add pictures for some reason: will try again later



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Postby Starlight » Fri, 2021-Mar-12, 16:57

garethmetcalf wrote:Source of the postEdit: typical!! I can’t add pictures for some reason: will try again later
See Jennifer's topic Attachments not working? We may need to host images elsewhere and link to them on the forum.

All in all it sounds like a good, productive week.



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Postby SoWhat » Fri, 2021-Mar-12, 21:09

Greetings Gareth,

You have been quite productive indeed!!!

I’m knackered - not used to all this physical work!!


I know what you mean. We are working on my wife's art studio, and it's basically every other day to allow our bodies to recover. We're not as young as we used to be...

Oh and whoever it was that recommended I buy a cordless caulk gun - Thankyou!! What a lifesaver


You're most welcome.

All the best,

Paul



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Postby garethmetcalf » Sun, 2021-Mar-14, 12:59

Hi all

It seems I can upload again, so here are the pictures for days 94-104. I worked days 99-103 solid this week as off work, and day 104 was yesterday when the screed was put down on top of the insulation on the floor.

Vapour barrier stuck to top of sole plate, to form continuous protection from condensation behind plasterboard and under stud frame:
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Studs drying ready for making walls, as the tarpaulins they were under were not fully waterproof:
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Frames building built in sections:
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Frames being laid out ready for plasterboard, in place ready for lifting up on to sole plate:
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Two layers of plasterboard going on to frames:
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Frames going up:
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Sealant going on sole plate and between sections:
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Section view of the inner room wall:
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PIR insulation going on top of tanked concrete:
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Vapour barrier on top of insulation, taped to vapour barrier from behind plasterboard:
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The screed guys made light work of something that looked backbreaking - one guy shovelled two tonnes of soil and a load of cement into the hopper of their mixer/pump, whilst in the studio the other guy laid it with a trowel. It's a very dry looking mix but the final finish is so flat! Should be dry tomorrow.

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Looking forward to the inner ceiling this week.

Cheers
Gareth



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Postby Starlight » Sun, 2021-Mar-14, 16:40

Wow!



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Postby garethmetcalf » Mon, 2021-Mar-15, 19:51

Day 106 - making inner leaf silencers.

The title says it all. I turned the studio room with its freshly created floor into a woodworking workshop today and table saw cut all the bits for two silencers. Each is the width of the room, both will sit on top of the stud framing, at each end of the room. This means that both will be mostly hidden from below by either soffit walls for speakers, or hangers for rear wall bass trapping.

I did two layers of osb for the sides that will face thw outer room. I’m concerned how I’ll get these up on to the frames but that’s for me and my Dad to figure out tomorrow. I nearly finished one and the other is 2/3 done but I ran out of screws and spray glue.

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Postby endorka » Tue, 2021-Mar-16, 05:27

Excellent!

How did you secure the inner baffles in place?

Cheers,
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Postby garethmetcalf » Tue, 2021-Mar-16, 14:57

Hi Jennifer

I glued the baffle sections and just used a screw into the sides. The insulation on the top and bottom of the silencer helps hold them in place too and the air speed is pretty slow through there. Should be enough!! (Fingers crossed).

I’ll measure out what I’ve got left of the insulation and hopefully it’s enough for your job.

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Postby endorka » Tue, 2021-Mar-16, 19:13

garethmetcalf wrote:Source of the postI glued the baffle sections and just used a screw into the sides. The insulation on the top and bottom of the silencer helps hold them in place too and the air speed is pretty slow through there. Should be enough!! (Fingers crossed).[/qupte]

I'm sure it will be.

I’ll measure out what I’ve got left of the insulation and hopefully it’s enough for your job.


Superb, thank you :)

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Postby garethmetcalf » Wed, 2021-Mar-17, 14:49

Days 107 and 108 - ceiling pt1

With help from my Dad we thankfully managed to ge the silencers up on the inner frame. We pivoted one end up to rest on the frame one side, then lifted the other side up. To make it as light a lift as possible, the main section for the underside was attached afterwards with plenty of sealant and screws used, and the additional mass (second layer) to go on the top side was added afterwords too. This was just placed on top with some sealant to hold it in place.

After that we set about making the joist frames for the herringbone style modular inside out ceiling. Four of these are needed and we succeeded in getting one up yesterday.

I managed to get the other three made and lifted (with the help of my partner) into place today, with sealant between each pair of joists as they went up.

I then made a start on the frames for the 8 modules.

I’m collecting a plasterboard lift tomorrow that I’ve got on hire for three days, so hoping to get several of the modules made and installed tomorrow.

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Postby Starlight » Wed, 2021-Mar-17, 18:38

I am really enjoying seeing your place come together, Gareth. Well done on getting the silencer box in position and completed.



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Postby Jag94 » Thu, 2021-Mar-18, 20:28

Lookin great. What will be your final ceiling height once all the layers of drywall are in?




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