Garden mix room near Nottingham, UK

#61

Hi
Update wise I’ve managed to fit the outside door and window. These are both conventional UPVC frames with so called acoustic glass in, which is two pieces of glass one thicker than the other separated by a small air gap. I realise this won’t be as good for isolation as one thick piece but I’ve bought a glazed door of this specification before and it was pretty good. It is important that aesthetically the building looks good from the front and this door and window match the house. Compromise!

My inside leaf door and window will be made by me and will use a single piece of thicker glass.

Since then the heater, the extractor fan and a dehumidifier have been running and I’ve got the inside temperature up to 15 degrees C. It all seems to be drying out slowly.

I am waiting on the water proofing tanking installer coming back for an inspection (hopefully tomorrow) so we can plan in a date for that work.

These are the pics I couldn’t post before, showing the hole I dug out again to get the sump lower so it holds water below the top of the slab. Thankfully this appears to be working now. The bags are all the mud/clay/soil/gravel I dug out that will be replaced with lovely new gravel. I hate mud.

My thoughts are turning once again to my design, and particularly to the soffit mounting of my monitors. In Stuart’s absence, does anyone know how to calculate the sorbothane needed for holding the speakers?

Thanks!

Gareth

#62

Looking great. I love the multi coloured paving slabs!

I've attached a document I have on sorbothane that might be of help.

Cheers,
Jennifer

#63

Thanks Jennifer! Will give it a read.

It’s nice to see you back on here - when I first joined this forum it was your thread I read through. Keep up with the good work!

Cheers
Gareth

#64

Gareth, Sorbothane has put the rated load for each product in its products guide catalogue. Hemispheres are on pages 8-11. Here it is as a PDF.

Bear in mind that speakers are rarely evenly weighted at all four corners, so you are likely to need either more hemispheres on the heavy side and fewer on the light side or use different sizes or durometer to achieve the same result. I have no idea whether Neumann gives such precise details. If not, you may need to weigh each corner of your new monitors.

Edit: Aha, Jennifer sneaked in while I was writing my reply. At least great minds think alike - Jennifer was first so she has the great mind and I just think alike!

#65

Hah! But yours is the 2020 version and mine was 2018, so you get bragging rights

Cheers!
Jennifer

#66

garethmetcalf wrote:Source of the postIt’s nice to see you back on here - when I first joined this forum it was your thread I read through. Keep up with the good work!

Thank you. More improvements underway soon :geek:

Cheers!
Jennifer

#67

Thanks both!

It looks simple enough to calculate what size/quantity of hemispheres I need based on the weight, but then it isn't clear on how you specify the right durometer, and how (if) that's related to the lowest frequency. I'll do some more reading up on their website.

Cheers
Gareth

#68

Day 77

The damp proof tanking was started today!! I’ve booked two weeks off work in March to build the inside structure and hopefully that’ll be me back on track. Will have lost two months I think but at least I’ll know it’ll be dry.

#69

That is beginning to sound so much more positive and reassuring than when you announced the discovery of your studio reservoir. All the best for a successful tanking and I hope the 2 weeks in March help you feel like you have caught up with where you want to be.

#70

Day 87

The tanking was completed last week - four coats in all, and is dry. I installed some more insulation last night to two of the walls and the rest this evening. Next week I'll be silicon sealing a treated 4x2 to the floor which will become the bottom of the inside walls that will be build in sections inside out. The long walls (about 5.5m long) will be in three sections and the short walls (about 3.3m) will be in two.

From reading ScotcH's build diary it's clear I won't be able to lift these wall sections myself. I think I might try something like the chain hoist linked below as otherwise I'll need to make the panels half the size, which will use even more wood and add more joints that need to be sealed.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KATSU-Tools-18 ... r=8-5&th=1

I figure I could attach this to a bar between two joists directly above where the inside wall needs to attach. Might be a lot of load for two joists to carry though...

All of this because of covid restrictions - I could otherwise call in help from friends or family. Oh well.

Here’s the most up to date pics...

1. Tanking drying:

2. Additional 50mm insulation going up to fill gap between leaves:

3. A bit thicker in this corner as the outer shell is not square (so it looks right in the garden) whereas the inner room will be:

4. All done:

Back to proper progress in a week...

Gareth

#71

Gareth, maybe your local tool hire place has wall jacks.

I remember following Ryan's studio build over on Gearslutz. Ryan made inside out walls and used two wall jacks per wall to lift them into place. Some links for you:

New commercial build in Denver - see especially replies 32 and 36. The latter has links to two short videos showing one wall being lifted.

Qualcraft 2601 Wall Jack (on ebay.co.uk)

#72

Thanks Starlight. I remember reading that build a while ago - I was intrigued because I've spent a bit of time in Denver over the last few years - it's a fantastic place.

I've had a google but those wall jacks don't seem to be available in the UK, I'm guessing because we don't tend to build houses in the same way as the Americans.

Maybe the safest thing to do is just build in smaller sections that my partner and I can lift and accept this means more wood and more sealant between the sections. I suppose I could build the sections the same width as a piece of plasterboard which will make them quick to assemble.

Thanks
Gareth

#73

Why can't you have a helper come by? Would masks and a bit of distance not be sufficient? Or are the restrictions in the UK that strict right now? In Canada no issues with workers coming into a house, as long as everyone has a mask. I mean if Walmart is open ....

Or is it just a personal comfort issue? Just curious ...

#74

Hi ScotcH

The restrictions are slowly starting to lift here but no one is allowed to socialise indoors during March - by until the end of April. So whilst I could pay a contractor to come and do the work, legally I can’t have a friend assist. Whilst I’d be ok with having someone help I don’t know if my available friends would be.

Can’t wait for these restrictions to lift for many reasons!

Gareth

#75

garethmetcalf wrote:Source of the post
Can’t wait for these restrictions to lift for many reasons!

I hear ya ... haven't jammed with the band for like a year

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