Garden mix room near Nottingham, UK

#211

some serious studio build porn...

i like how the builders kept the site organized and clean throughout the process. nice work on the inside out walls and ceiling.

#212

Nicely done, having a time lapse build video. Your studio is an impressive achievement.

Off topic: will that be (maybe now is) a raised flowerbed on the right of the garden?

#213

Thanks! I don’t need to tell you guys how much work self building a studio is…

It is indeed a raised flowerbed, and will have some space for growing vegetables. The guys who did the groundworks were landscapers (my next door neighbour!) so we got them to do the raised bed and lift our patio at the same time.

Cheers
Gareth

#214

Have you tried inspecting the ventilation ducts and silencers with a plumber's endoscope? Perhaps they make some with a maneuverable head that would allow it to negotiate the turns in the silencers?

Cheers,
Jennifer

#215

garethmetcalf wrote:Source of the post I’ve finally uploaded all my time lapse build videos. There are 6 in total each about 1-2 minutes long so they don’t really make it look as much work as it was over 6 months!

Nice work, Gareth! Great videos. Makes it look soooo simple! It takes less than 15 minutes to build a studio! :shock:

I like the way you built the inside-out ceiling: very efficient.

Will there by more videos, on the interior and finishing?

(I did reply to your latest PM by the way: not sure if you saw that...)

This place is going to be so cool, when it is totally complete!

- Stuart -

#216

I don’t have any more video than what I posted, although if I do more build work I’ll try and capture that too. The fifteen minutes watching the video makes it look so easy!!

Nice idea, Jennifer, I am not sure I know anyone with such a tool, but perhaps they can be rented… will investigate.

As we are nothing has changed other than me buying and selling some bits of equipment - been refining my plans for how to generate income and decided that having some decent outboard compressors etc alongside a well treated room would make it somewhere useful for those that create and mix in less ideal spaces. The final 20% of the mix.

Just need to put some time into website and promotion etc!

Will post again once Stuart has devised a plan to improve the reverb time and try and deal with the worst of the frequency nulls and peaks.

Cheers
Gareth

#217

you can also find the optical fibre scopes on amazon. it connects to your smartphone and most have an app. i have one which is 8m long and has a light on it as well. not as fancy as the type with the guide handle but works in most cases easily enough.

#218

Hi guys, am going to do some finishing details over the next few weeks, and one thing has been bothering me...

I had planned for all of the side walls to be covered in fabric panels, and have done this for about 1/2 the studio already. One of the walls has an electric heater mounted to it and I had planned to have a fabric panel on that wall too, with the heater mounted in front of it. This would mean fabric immediately behind and above the heater. The heater has a built in thermostat and it's set to 20 degrees C (68 F).

Do people think this is dangerous?

Should I make this wall either plasterboard faced (or at least the bit behind the heater), or maybe a wooden slatted wall with the heater mounted to the slats? This bit of wall is directly opposite the glazed door, so having a reflective surface makes sense for symmetry.

The fabric (Camira Cara) meets various standards for flammability: BS EN 1021-1 Cigarette & BS 476 Part 7 Class 1 and the fire test results are: https://gikacoustics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Camira-Cara-Flammability.pdf

The heater is a Dimplex Monteray 2kw: https://www.electricpoint.com/dimplex-monterey-mfpe-panel-heater-mfp200e-2kw-with-advanced-controls.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=datafeed&utm_campaign=google-shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3-yQBhD3ARIsAHuHT67klbBBsRTBt2ilNbG0yr6OF-tflpCf8k3adbQM2roaaoXzR5FNeScaAvRbEALw_wcB

You can see how the heater is currently mounted in this picture...

Any thoughts gratefully received.

#219

I've no idea if it is dangerous or not, I suppose in normal life people dry towels on these - the ones without vents anyway - but this is not normal life

Personally I would only proceed with this if I can determine it was within building code and any other regulations pertinent to fire etc.

In your position I'd most likely avoid the dilemma completely by nipping down to Argos and buying one of the oil filled electric heaters on wheels. Cheap, effective, and you can move it out during summer. And you get the whole wall back for treatement.

Another thing perhaps worth considering is an inline duct heater to integrate into your existing ventilation. Someone who knows about HVAC mentioned those to me, but again I've no idea if they are applicable in your situation.

PS some of the panel heaters and radiators resonate like crazy, might be worth checking before buying.

Cheers!
Jennifer

#220

usually we box them out so there is: 1) a way to get the heat out into the room, b) prevent issues with the heat getting in behind or directly onto the walls (excessive drying of wood, warping (and not the good star trek kind), and generally inefficiencies. so adding wood or metal panels to enclose the unit (leaving the manufacturer recommended boundaries) will eliminate most issues and also allow the heat to be directed into the room. in most cases, the heat off the unit shouldn't be hot enough to cause ignition of cloth, but then again, you're using flame re-ta-rdent treated cloth right? :-)

#221

That's really useful Glenn thanks. I plan to box the radiators in my place, those are heated by the wet central heating system that runs at 70°C and am therefore more confident about them not being an ignition risk. They ring though, so I hope to reduce this by making the enclosing boxes have some features of the usual ventilation silencers we see here. Duct lining that doesn't touch the actual radiator on the inner surfaces, for example.

#222

Thanks for this both.

As I've already bought this and it works well as a heater, I'm not keen to change it. I could box it in, but that would need to be in the context of other treatment to be applied to that wall which I don't have a plan for at the moment.

The cloth is fire retardant, but as we're planning for the worst case scenario, I think I'll see if I can mount it to a wooden structure.

I've checked and the mounting plate for the heater is actually a separate piece of metal that's nearly the full size of the back, so if this were mounted to wooden slatted absorbers it would probably be an OK compromise.

Basically, I will avoid my original plan of mounting it directly to fabric!

Cheers

#223

i think you could layer some semi-rigid onto the radiator to damp it. maybe some 300 x 300 sized x 100mm? x 50mm? to damp the metal surfaces.

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#224

garethmetcalf wrote:Source of the post I’ve finally uploaded all my time lapse build videos. There are 6 in total each about 1-2 minutes long so they don’t really make it look as much work as it was over 6 months!

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlPB ... Jq1EARiDCa

Enjoy

Wow.. I really enjoyed watching that. Thanks.. I did not video tape very much at all but I am working on a movie from still pictures of the entire process.. Joules is putting the fabric on the walls of the control room today..... one step closer..

scott

#225

Thanks! Would love to see your video when you’ve done it
Gareth

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